Legislature(2011 - 2012)HOUSE FINANCE 519

02/09/2012 10:30 AM Senate LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL


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Sanctioning of Charitable Events Approval
Dare to Care - Hollywood Under the Stars
Juneau-Douglas Shrine Club - Annual Dance
Big Brothers, Big Sisters - Bowl for Kid's Sake
Alaska Youth Choir - A Night in New Orleans
Kenai River Sportfishing Association:
- Kenai River Classic
- Kenai River Jr. Classic
- Kenai River Women's Classic
Late Travel and Per Diem Claim Approval
- Rep. Max Gruenberg and Rep. Kurt Olson
Access to Facebook Approval
Mat-Su Subordination Agreement Approval
FY 11 Legislature Audit
FY 13 Legislative Council Budget Request
Cutting Edge Snowplowing Amendment Approval
                                           FEBRUARY 9, 2012                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
10:35:08 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
The Legislative Council meeting was called to order at by Senator Linda Menard, Chair, in the                                   
House Finance Committee Room.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1. ROLL CALL                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                              
Chair  Menard   called  the roll.  In attendance  were   Council  members:     Senators  Davis,  Egan,                          
Olson,  Hoffman,   Stedman,  Stevens,  and  Menard;  Representatives   Austerman,   Chenault,  Herron,                          
Holmes,   Johnson,   and   Stoltze. Absent    members:    Representative   P.  Wilson,   and  alternate                         
members Representative Thomas and Senator Thomas.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Staff present:   Varni, Tilton, Clothier, Gardner, Ibesate, Lesh, Strong                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Others present:  Craig Thorn of First National Bank and Dennis Smith, Wasilla Station LLC (via                                  
                  teleconference)                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
2. APPROVAL OF AGENDA                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative Herron moved that Legislative Council approve the agenda as presented.                                           
                                                                                                                                
The motion passed with no objections.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3. APPROVAL OF JANUARY 17, 2012 MINUTES                                                                                       
                                                                                                                              
Representative Herron moved that Legislative Council approve the January 17, 2012 minutes as                                    
presented.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
The motion passed with no objections.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4. SANCTIONING OF CHARITABLE EVENTS APPROVAL                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Chair Menard noted there are several requests for sanctioning including:                                                        
                                                                                                                                
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    · Dare to Care - 6 Annual Hollywood Under the Stars (Feb. 25, 2012)                                                         
    · Juneau-Douglas Shrine Club - Annual Dance (March 17, 2012)                                                                
    · Big Brothers, Big Sisters - Bowl for Kid's Sake (April 7, 2012)                                                           
    · Alaska Youth Choir - A Night in New Orleans (April 7, 2012)                                                               
    · Kenai Peninsula Fair's - Celebrity Waiter Event (April 14, 2012)                                                          
    · Kenai River Sportfishing Association:                                                                                     
          ƒKenai River Classic (July 5, 6 and 7, 2012)                                                                         
          ƒKenai River Jr. Classic (August 14, 2012)                                                                           
          ƒKenai River Women's Classic (Sept. 6, 7 and 8, 2012)                                                                
                                                                                                                                
She  said backup  information  for each  of these events has been  provided  in the packets and  asked                          
that members    sanction  all the events  with  one  motion  unless  there is a  question  regarding  a                         
specific event.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Stoltze said he would   like to speak  to the Dare  to Care  event because   he asked                          
that it be put on the agenda.  He  said this is the major fundraiser for a nonprofit  that raises funds                         
to combat   youth  hunger  in schools. This  organization  feeds approximately    4,000 kids  from  the                         
Mat-Su   Valley  to neighborhoods    in Anchorage;   it has administrative  costs around  two  percent                          
and no employees. He noted Ms. Wild was on the phone in case there were any questions.                                          
                                                                                                                                
Chair Menard asked for a motion.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Herron  moved   that Legislative  Council  sanction  the following  charitable events                          
per AS 24.60.080(a)(2)(B):                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
    · Dare to Care - 6th Annual Hollywood Under the Stars                                                                       
    · Juneau-Douglas Shrine Club - 2012 Annual Dance                                                                            
    · Big Brothers Big Sisters - 2012 Juneau Bowl For Kids' Sake                                                                
    · Alaska Youth Choir - A Night in New Orleans                                                                               
    · Kenai Peninsula Fair's - Celebrity Waiter Event                                                                           
    · Kenai River Sportfishing Association - Classic, Jr. Classic & Women's Classic                                             
                                                                                                                                
The motion passed with no objections.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
5. LATE TRAVEL AND PER DIEM CLAIM APPROVAL                                                                                    
    · Rep. Max Gruenberg                                                                                                        
    · Rep. Kurt Olson                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Chair  Menard   stated that there are two requests for approval  for travel and per diem   claims filed                         
past the deadline:  one  from  Representative   Max   Gruenberg   and  one from  Representative   Kurt                          
Olson.  She noted that Representative Kurt Olson was present should anyone have questions.                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator Stedman joined the meeting.                                                                                             
10:41:24 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Discussion followed.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Herron   moved   that Legislative  Council   approve  the  late travel and  per  diem                          
claims for Representative Max Gruenberg and Representative Kurt Olson.                                                          
                                                                                                                                
The motion passed with no objections.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
6. ACCESS TO FACEBOOK APPROVAL                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Chair  Menard   stated that a one year Facebook   trial period was approved   at the February  3, 2011                          
meeting.   We  have  made  it through  the trial period without security or bandwidth   issues.  Based                          
on this, Curtis Clothier, I.S. Manager,  is recommending    that access to Facebook   continue as is.  I                        
have  also received  requests from  Ethics,  the Ombudsman's     Office, and  Legislative  Budget  and                          
Audit  to  access  Facebook   to  help each   of their offices  to perform   their work.    Curtis has                          
suggested  that  access to  Facebook   be granted  by  the  Legislative Council   Chair  using  a form                          
similar to the Non-Standard Equipment Request.  Curtis is here to answer any questions.                                         
                                                                                                                                
Chair Menard asked for a motion.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Herron   moved   that Legislative Council  based  on a successful  one-year  Facebook                           
trial period for Legislators and Press  Staff, will continue Facebook   access  as is.  In addition, the                        
Chair  of  Legislative  Council   has  the  authority  to grant  access  to  Facebook    to legislative                         
employees who require Facebook access as part of their job duties.                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative Austerman objected for purposes of discussion.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Austerman   asked  why   go through  an  application  process for  giving Legislators                          
and staff access to Facebook,   if it's working with no problems  as stated. He was  also interested in                         
how  much   staff time would  be involved  in taking part in the application process  and getting final                         
approval through Legislative Council.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Curtis Clothier, Manager   of Information   Services, responded  that he is suggesting  a conservative                          
approach.  Since  Legislators  were  granted  Facebook    access, there  are currently  34 Legislators                          
who   asked  for access  in addition  to seven  press people.  He  said  that there haven't  been  any                          
issues, the number   of people  actually using it is relatively small and, in addition, the number   of                         
people  who  have  asked  for access  is also relatively small. Mr.  Clothier said  that, based on  the                         
number   of users, we  continue  to conservatively  step into allowing  greater  access to ensure  that                         
there continue to be no problems.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Discussion followed.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Johnson   said  he  is in favor  of  using  an  application  process   because  he  is                         
concerned   about potential ethics violations, whether  inadvertent  or not, by staff using Facebook.                           
He  said that because  there  are state resources used  to pay  for access to Facebook    and that is a                         
strong concern for him.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Austerman   said  that an ethical violation  can  occur just as  easily using  a State                         
phone as using Facebook and wasn't convinced that was any more of a concern.                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senators  Hoffman   and  Davis wanted   to know  under  what  circumstances  an  application would  be                          
denied.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative Stoltze asked what would cause a person to be barred from Facebook access.                                       
Discussion followed.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Speaker Chenault joined the meeting.                                                                                            
11:12:05 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Chair  Menard   said she  was  going  to hold this issue over  until the next meeting.  There  was  no                          
vote on the motion.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
7. MAT-SU LIO LEASE SUBORDINATION AGREEMENT APPROVAL                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Chair  Menard  stated that Wasilla  Station, LLC,  the landlord of the Mat-Su   LIO,  is requesting the                         
approval  of a Subordination  Agreement    with First National  Bank  Alaska,  Wasilla Branch.   Terry                          
Bannister  from  Legislative  Legal  has reviewed   the agreement   and  is here to answer  questions.                          
Chair  Menard   said  she  received  an  email  from  Craig  Thorn,  Senior  Vice   President  of First                         
National  Bank,  indicating that that the Bank  has agreed  to Legislative Legal's  proposed  changes                           
and  are  drafting  them   into an  updated   agreement.    Mr.   Thorn   and  Dennis   Smith   are on                          
teleconference.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Herron    moved    that Legislative   Council   approve   the  Subordination,    Non-                          
Disturbance   and  Attornment    Agreement    and  Estoppel   Certificate  with  First National  Bank                           
Alaska  and our  Mat-Su  landlord, Wasilla  Station, LLC.   Our  Legal  Services Section  should  work                          
with First National  Bank  Alaska  to make   changes  to the agreement   that concern  the Agency.   If                         
First National  Bank   Alaska  requires  us to sign  a new  lease  under  this agreement,  Legislative                          
Council authorizes the Agency to do so.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Holmes   said this is what  she does  for a  living. She said  she read  through  Ms.                          
Bannister's note  and  that she makes  some   very good   points. She said  Legal Services  is doing  a                         
very  good  job at protecting the  Legislature and  that she would   encourage   Council  and  LAA   to                         
make some rather significant changes to the agreement before it is signed.                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Stoltze said he  wanted  to disclose on the record  that Mr. Smith  has contributed  to                         
his campaign   in the past. He said he  has had no  detailed discussion  about the Mat-Su   legislative                         
office.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Chair Menard made the same disclosure. She then asked Terry Bannister to speak to this issue.                                   
                                                                                                                                
Terry  Bannister, attorney  with Legal  Services,  said it basically represents an agreement   and  the                         
Bank's  attempt,  in the  process  of providing   financing  to our  current  lessor, to get into  first                        
position on  the record  for that real property, because   the LIO's  lease was  recorded   before this                         
current agreement   would  be recorded.  She  said it would protect the Bank's  security interests that                         
they're  taking in this property  so  they can  be  in first position should  it become   necessary  to                         
foreclose  on the lessor. The  Bank   is requesting  that the Legislature  accept being  in a position                          
behind  them  and  that we accept  them  as the new  lessor should  there be a foreclosure.  The Bank                           
agrees that if there is a foreclosure, they will not evict us, which  is to our benefit. She said there                         
are general  provisions  that generally protect us and  Ms.  Bannister  is requesting more   to protect                         
the Agency's interest.                                                                                                          
Ms.  Bannister  said that the current lease ends  in July and if the Legislature did  not want  to sign                         
this agreement,  we  could  find new   space  at the end of  the lease. If we  do want  to stay in our                          
current space,  signing this agreement   ensures  we  can do  that for another five years. She  said if                         
the financing  runs smoothly,  this agreement   may  never  be invoked.  If there is a foreclosure and                          
the Bank needs to step in, we will be allowed to finish the lease under the existing terms.                                     
                                                                                                                                
Discussion followed.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Craig  Thorn,  Senior Vice  President  of First National Bank,  said  that the Bank  is pursuing long-                          
term  financing through  AIDEA,    the Alaska  Industrial Development   and  Export  Authority,  which                          
is a state agency who   is the primary  driver of this request to have  this SNDA   document   signed.                          
The  Bank   has reviewed   Ms.  Bannister's recommendations     and  agrees with  those. He  said they                          
are  making   the changes   now   and  forwarding   to  AIDEA    for their  concurrence.   He  said he                          
disagreed  that the State  is giving up  anything  with  this agreement;  in addition  to this being  a                         
subordination  document,   there  is also a non-disturbance   clause such  that if the State of Alaska                          
fulfills its obligations as a tenant, the Bank, assuming   it took control of the property, would   not                         
disturb the State of Alaska as a tenant.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Discussion followed.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Herron   stated, as other members   had  previously  noted, that the current motion  is                         
confusing  as written and  that he respectfully requests  that the Chair ask Ms.  Bannister  and  LAA                           
to write a new motion and bring it back to Council for a vote.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Chair Menard said the Council will move on to other business while the motion is re-written.                                    
                                                                                                                                
8. FY 11 LEGISLATURE AUDIT                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Chair  Menard   stated  that the FY   11 Audit   is being presented   to members    of the Legislative                          
Council.  No action is required at this time.  Pam Varni is here if there are any questions.                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senate  President Stevens   asked if Council  could  have an  explanation  provided  by  Ms.  Varni on                          
this item.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Varni  said that before Council  is the management    letter that is going to the members   of the                         
Budget  and  Audit  Committee   and also Legislative  Council.  It is for the FY 11 audit for the entire                        
Legislative Branch.   She said many   years ago, we  consolidated  in an  attempt to save  money  and;                          
instead of having   three separate audits in the  Legislative Branch,  there is one  audit done  by  an                         
independent   auditor. The   auditor is Elgee,  Rehfeld,   Mertz  LLC.   It's the first year with  this                         
organization  under  a new  contract  with two  one-year  renewals.  The  cost is $18,250  and  is split                        
between   Office  of Victims'   Rights, the  Ombudsman,     Legislative  Affairs Agency,   Legislative                          
Finance  and Budget   and Audit.  It is a clean audit. There are no audit exceptions. She said besides                          
the letter to management     is a schedule   of appropriations,  expenditures,   encumbrances    and  a                         
schedule of revenues. She said she would be glad to answer any questions members may have.                                      
                                                                                                                                
There was no further discussion on this item.                                                                                   
9. FY 13 LEGISLATIVE COUNCIL BUDGET REQUEST                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Varni  said that before members   is an 85-page  detailed proposed   Legislative Council  Budget                           
for FY  13. In preparing  this proposed  budget,  she worked   with the Presiding  Officers, the Rules                          
Chairmen,   the Council  Chair,  the Chair of Administrative   Regulation  Review,   the Co-Chairs   of                         
Joint Armed   Services  and  the different Agency   heads.   In the audience   is Linda Lord-Jenkins,                           
Office  of the Ombudsman.     She said she  also prepared  a budget  overview  for the members.   This                          
budget  is nine of the 13  separate budget  components;   there  are three RDUs   in the Legislature's                          
budget  and  two of those  RDUs   are in this 85-page  document.   If members   look at the amount   of                         
money   requested  in this FY 13  Council  request and  compare   it to the FY 13 Governor's   figures,                         
it is a decrease of $224,000.   If members   compare   the  FY  13 adjusted  based  versus  the FY  13                          
request, it is a decrease of $873,600.  What   is not in this budget request are the four components                            
that go directly to the House   and Senate  Finance  Committees    and that is the Legislative Budget                           
and  Audit  RDU,    which   is comprised   of  Legislative  Audit,  Legislative  Finance,  Legislative                          
Budget and Audit Committee Expenses and State Facilities Rent.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Varni  directed members    to the first couple of pages  of her summary:   (I) only  concerns  the                         
budget  that is before the Council  and (II), (III), and (IV) do show  the entire components   that are                         
in the Legislative  Branch  budget.  She  said that she then  went  into explanation  of the increases                          
and  decreases,  looking  at  the Governor's   figures  and  our  request, as  well as  detail in each                          
component    looking  at the FY   13 adjusted  base  compared    to the request. The   last part of the                         
summary    goes into more  detail about what  is comprised  in each  one of the components.   She  said                         
the  Agency   strived  to do  a  maintenance    level budget   in the  request  along  with  what   the                         
Executive  Branch   is doing, there is a 2% cost of living increase, health insurance  is going up $80                          
a month per employee and there's a small working reserve increase.                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Herron  moved    that Legislative  Council  per  AS  24.20.130   approve  the  FY  13                          
Legislative  Council   Proposed    Budget   and   transmit  it to  the  House   and   Senate   Finance                          
Committees for their review and action.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Discussion followed.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
The motion passed with no objections.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10. CUTTING EDGE SNOWPLOWING AMENDMENT APPROVAL                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Chair  Menard    stated that the  snowplowing    contract  was  renewed    with  Cutting  Edge  in  the                         
amount   of $25,000.  Cutting Edge  has  billed $17,670  through  December   31  with a current billing                         
which   was  received  on February   3 for  work  performed   through  January   31 in the  amount   of                         
$16,110.   The  billings are itemized  and  staff has reviewed  the hours  submitted  for verification.                         
An  increase  in the amount  of $15,000   is requested to help cover  the current  billing and provide                          
for any increased services that are needed during these conditions.                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Herron  moved    that Legislative  Council  approve   a $15,000   amendment     to the                         
Cutting Edge Development, Inc. snowplowing contract.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Discussion followed.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
The motion passed with no objections.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
7. MAT-SU LIO LEASE SUBORDINATION AGREEMENT APPROVAL                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Herron  moved   that our Legal  Services  section work  with  the parties involved  to                         
amend   the  proposed   Subordination,   Non-Disturbance,    and  Attornment   Agreement    with  First                         
National  Bank   and  our  Mat-Su   landlord,  Wasilla  Station  LLC,  and   that Legislative  Council                          
approve at this time the Agreement as so amended.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
The motion passed with no objections.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
The meeting was adjourned at 11:55 a.m.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
11:55:38 AM                                                                                                                   

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